@Honda Techs Re: Rim Switchover

[hotdogjohnny]

I'm wondering if I am being bamboozled. Dealership told me that to switch over my oem '12 Si tires and tpms sensors to my '06 RSX S rims, mount and balance all four wheels, will take about 2 1/2 hours and that the techs hate this sort of job becuase there's such a risk of damage to rims and sensors. This dealership is only a few years old and has the latest of everything equipment-wise, including indoor automatic car wash.

So I was originally quoted $99.84 for the job. Great. That's what two other places wanted, too. Today, went to set up appointment, and no, there's a $52 labor charge. So I asked what the $99 charge was, since there are no parts involved. He said there's also a potential $52 TPMS reprogramming charge if the sensors lose their signal. Really, Now its potentially $200? Why would they lose their signal?

He also said they have to mask off all eight rim edges with painters' tape to protect them . . . its a real involved process to change over the rims (I can tape of 8 wheels in under 5 minutes). I set up an appt for Monday for the $152. I doubt the sensors should lose their signal and they don't need re-programming for the new rims.

What are your thoughts? I know that my thoughts are that I hate TPMS sensors because they have just created a new profit center for tire guys. Who needs sensors? You mean you can't tell when you're running on a flat?

 

[Pauly99to17]

Thankfully I<m in Canada where we don<t have to deal with those sensors......our technology is always 3 years behind you guys so we<ll probably start getting these added onto our tires in the near future........agree with you that it<s a money grab.

 

[steveb]

I say your better off going to a tire specific place such as discount tire. There is no way the sensors are going to lose their signal!!!! They would only need to be reprogrammed if you were changing tire size which would change tire pressure. The RSX wheels are the same specs as our oem wheels and so the same tire size goes on which means the same air pressure. I will be throwing on another set of wheels in about a month and will be having the tpms sensors migrated over. I will be getting some larger tires 225/45's to go on the new 17x8 wheels. It will be the same tire pressure. I am buying my tires at discount tire. They are doing the swap of the tpms sensors no charge (because I am buying tires from them).

 

[hotdogjohnny]

I say your better off going to a tire specific place such as discount tire. There is no way the sensors are going to lose their signal!!!! They would only need to be reprogrammed if you were changing tire size which would change tire pressure. The RSX wheels are the same specs as our oem wheels and so the same tire size goes on which means the same air pressure. I will be throwing on another set of wheels in about a month and will be having the tpms sensors migrated over. I will be getting some larger tires 225/45's to go on the new 17x8 wheels. It will be the same tire pressure. I am buying my tires at discount tire. They are doing the swap of the tpms sensors no charge (because I am buying tires from them).

Thanks! I called NTB, a chain tire place, and they would do the whole thing for less than $90 total. But when I told him that the rims were freshly painted and clear-coated, he said they'd get scratched or paint "mooshed in" at the rim, no way to avoid it because ANY shop's machinery has to push on the painted side, edge of the rim during the process. If that's the case, I may have Honda do it, because any rims I put on the car are covered by the expensive ( ) wheel and tire warranty I opted for when the pretty finance manager (

) suggested it when I bought the car (

). But I'm okay with it, really .

 

[Pauly99to17]

If the paint is dry you don't need to worry about them getting wrecked.....I was worried with mine and they were fine. I put the tires on freshly painted rims that had only dried 3 or 4 days prior. If you can wait a full week or ideally 2 or more then your rims should be perfectly fine.

 

[steveb]

I remember that fancy wheel coverage option in the finance speal!!!!!!! It actual was appealing enough for me to think about it for about 15 seconds before I said pass. I agree that giving the wheels a week before doing the sway will be enough time for the paint to have dried.

 

[hotdogjohnny]

I remember that fancy wheel coverage option in the finance speal!!!!!!! It actual was appealing enough for me to think about it for about 15 seconds before I said pass. I agree that giving the wheels a week before doing the sway will be enough time for the paint to have dried.

It's been a full week, and I found out from a powdercoater I called today that some shops have equip that doesn't touch the painted side of the wheel. Probably taking it to American Tire tomorrow morning! Oh and it's only $125 soup to nuts.

 

[the insider]

I'm calling BS! I've NEVER seen a tpms sensor "lose" its signal. Its a simple tire swap with OE equipment. Right now up here its summer tire switch over season and we are busting tires all day long - no damaged rims; no broken sensors.

 

[the insider]

Thankfully I<m in Canada where we don<t have to deal with those sensors......our technology is always 3 years behind you guys so we<ll probably start getting these added onto our tires in the near future........agree with you that it<s a money grab.

the sensors are gone - starting with the '13 Accords- Honda is moving towards a system that uses wheel speed to detect deflation

 

[webby]

Paint should be fine if it's been a week+. The sensor is not going to lose it's signal & need reprogrammed being moved to a different rim.

CHH actually did bust a sensor when they were trying to move a set to a different wheel for testing purposes. It could happen, but if you align the tire in the machine properly, it's not going to hit it.

View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACZgU67Ezd0

 

[hotdogjohnny]

I'm calling BS! I've NEVER seen a tpms sensor "lose" its signal. Its a simple tire swap with OE equipment. Right now up here its summer tire switch over season and we are busting tires all day long - no damaged rims; no broken sensors.

Thank you! KNew it in my gut.

 

[hotdogjohnny]

I'm tempted to put together a TPMS canister to never have to deal with this again.

 

[webby]

The honda sensors have to be in motion/rotating to activate. If not... you'll get the imid error on the dash.

 

[Nix]

When you get new sensors do you have to do anything before they are installed? Or can you just swing by the dealer for a program after? I bought a second set for the new wheels. Want to make sure im ok getting them mounted with tires.

 

[webby]

Just go to the dealership & they can program. Nothing more is needed.

 

[Nix]

No batteries or anything to activate first?

I feel like such a noob right now.

 

[the insider]

When you get new sensors do you have to do anything before they are installed? Or can you just swing by the dealer for a program after? I bought a second set for the new wheels. Want to make sure im ok getting them mounted with tires.

The only thing you have to keep in mind is that you need to have the sensors registered every time you change over your rims and tires. We do it free for our customers as long as we do the change over. If you put the wheels on in your driveway then you pay.

 

[the insider]

No batteries or anything to activate first?

I feel like such a noob right now.

Nope. Batteries are supposed to last 12 years....supposed to. And they are integral to the sensor. Sensors are shipped in a hibernation mode. The tpms tool wakes them up.

 

[Nix]

Ah ok. How much for the tool to do it myself? ($1000?)

 

[Nix]

Thanks guys.